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Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO Spread)

by Al Rodgers, Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 04:21:15 AM EST

As they say at the amusement park, "strap yourself in."

Will anyone object if Senator Clinton is the VEEP?

I don't like Hillary, but if she's the VEEP I will salute.

While I disagree with her, I do think she's attractive (she looks alot younger than her age), plus she's devious (which is alluring). Hell, if she wasn't married, I'd ask her out. We'd have a great time fighting like cats and dawgs. She would get hooked on me - I like conflict and she digs swagger.

Look, I come to the issue from my prior experience as a Deaniac. I didn't get Howard on the ticket and it was a let down. It was sad, to be sure, but I didn't I didn't freakout or worse, vote for Bush.

Ditto with Gore putting Joementum on the ticket.

P.S. According to CBS and Howard Fineman at MSNBC the selection will likely be announced Thursday nite or Friday morning. And Andrea Mitchell says Saturday in Springfield.
That makes sense, Bill Clinton named Al Gore as his VEEP on Friday, July 10, 1992, three days before the Democratic convention.
Of course, that could be a head fake and the announcement could be made in a few hours!
P.S.S. Also, Andrea and Rich Lowery of N. Review say McSame is asking state party chairs if the Fundies would freak if he VEEPS fellow war monger, Joe Lieberman. Of course, there is another side to this coin. Another reporter, I think Jonathan Alterman, says this type of inquiry is only ruse, used to make the selection of Mitt Romney more palatable. Palatable, cuz the Fundies don't like ~~morons~~ Mormons. What an effen party; the Republicans.

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Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (2.00 / 1)

Al - You know you have lots more great pictures of the two of them. Let it rip. Comparing Hillary to Lieberman? Come on. And no excuses to post "girly" pictures, okay? It demeans us all...unless you post some better beefcake pictures and go for the body beautiful stance. Think firemen calendars, etc. Or just save your pictures for your own private use, Dude! We get what you're into!

by Jeter on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 04:38:01 AM EST

I would let it rip, but it's late (2.00 / 1)

I don't post Girlie pix. I post exotic pix of the male and female form. I have a long, documented history. And as you know, some women like the female form, as well.

I'm not comparing Hillary to Joementum, I'm comparing disappointment among various factions, within the party. After all, I mentioned Howard first.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 04:49:37 AM EST
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Re: I would let it rip, but it's late (2.00 / 1)

And some men like the male form, too. It's a wonderful, complicated, diverse world!

BTW, got any exotic pics of George Stephanopoulos? :-)

The universe is a casual place, not a suit-and-tie affair.

by mtnspirit on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:48:50 AM EST
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Whoever he takes... (2.00 / 3)

I've already reconciled myself to the fact that it won't be somebody I would pick if I were running for president. But then, I'm NOT running for president.

I think we have to just accept that there is some strategy involved in this, and the compromises that he has to make may not all be on the surface. So I think we should save our second-guessing until after the election is over. We all got a chance to say who he should pick, and few of us will be right. Let's commit to try to see the bright side of his choice. EVEN if it is Hillary.

by Dumbo on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 05:04:14 AM EST

breaking own rule (none / 0)

(posting today ;-)

who woiuld you pick, oh fearless leader?

*&=4eva

by BlogSurrogate57 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:14:38 AM EST
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I would have picked Clark. (none / 0)

Somebody who opposed the war and was ready to beat the crap out of McCain and the Republicans for their idiotic and adolescent-heroic foreign policy.

by Dumbo on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:51:40 PM EST
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I wont freak (2.00 / 2)

It would be a great pick.

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!

by Drewid on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 05:16:47 AM EST

Re: I wont freak (2.00 / 2)

I agree I think it will say a lot about Obama if he chooses Clinton. REC

by Politicalslave on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:04:56 AM EST
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Obviously I wouldn't. (2.00 / 0)

But I tend to think you would.

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:24:54 AM EST

Re: Obviously I wouldn't. (2.00 / 1)

Why would I freak, shes a great campaigner and helps his numbers in apalachia. That would include parts of Ohio, Va, and NC. I think PA is blue anyway.

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!

by Drewid on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:46:18 AM EST
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I will laugh my ass off - - -- (2.00 / 0)

as all the 'bots turn on a dime and sing her praises.
And, then I'll sigh over their dismay over the years as they realize the truly electible truly progressive nominee who connects with the voters is the 2008 Vice Presidential nominee.
PS - but she and Bill ran a horribly racist campaign - - they even called for his assassination! - - how could any self respecting AA man choose her for his VP?

John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!

by kosnomore on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:06:50 AM EST

Re: I will laugh my ass off - - -- (2.00 / 0)

An Interesting, but not a Surprising predicted reaction. The die-hard, or PUMA, or whatever the proper term is represents a diminishingly small part of the electorate - and one which has not, IMHO, driven the Veep selection decision process.
Here's why: If Hillary is not the selectee, then this hardcore anti-Obama group will be made even harder core (which is a meaningless distinction). If, OTOH, Hillary is selected, then a small part of this already small but vocal whatever-they-wish-to-be-called may peel off and join in support of the Party Ticket. This would be nice, but not decisive due to the small size and...

Hillary would alienate some of Obama's non-affilliated voters and of course the Republicans would bring out the attacks they had produced and 'in the can' for the person who everyone thought would be the candidate in the first place.

"But not me personally were those cheers for"

by QTG on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:25:33 AM EST
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Are you boycotting Oprah, too? (2.00 / 0)

maybe you should change your name to Oprahnomore.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:33:23 AM EST
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whoa whoa whoa there with that racist stuff (2.00 / 1)

so what you effectively said was that each and every black person HAS to be an Oprah fan? Why, just because she is AA too? Do you have any clue how bad that sounds? And somehow not going for her choice in each and every thing is anti-black? Are you sure you want to go that route? Why would her name even come up if kosnomore happened to indicate he was AA? He sure did not mention her but you choose to toss in a black womans name and scold him for that by mocking his screen name?

by zerosumgame on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:49:27 AM EST
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Is this snark? (2.00 / 0)

seriously,

Is this snark?

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:05:37 AM EST
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Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (2.00 / 3)

I'd prefer Gore or Clark but she'd be ok

Pretty much the same as my opinion during the primaries-- she's not my first or second choice but all I really care about is ending the reign of pubs.

by wrb on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:57:51 AM EST

Like all the other candidates... (2.00 / 1)

she has good points and bad ones. I'm voting for Sen. Obama regardless of the VP's name.

by Liberal Monk on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:03:29 AM EST

Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (none / 0)

One of my biggest problems with Clinton has been electability-- her ability to rally the right while losing independents. Thus figured the affect of adding her would be a wash. However it may be that her supporters' attachment is so personal while others don't much care who VP that there might be a net gain

by wrb on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:37:41 AM EST

Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (none / 0)

It's hard to tell. In any case, she's probably too old to run for President in 2016 (she would be 68 or something), so it's really just a gesture.

I am not a crook!

by username on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:52:44 AM EST
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Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (1.00 / 1)

She won't be too old until 2020 when she will be McCain's age. Then she can tell stories about her experience as a Bosnian POW.

Really, how can anyone support this bald-faced liar?

by antiHyde on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:35:34 AM EST
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Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (none / 0)

I thought we had moved beyond the utter hate, vitriol, and mischaracterizations of the primary....

by MMR2 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:05:40 AM EST
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Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (2.00 / 0)

Clearly you're new here.

I am not a crook!

by username on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:13:23 AM EST
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Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (2.00 / 0)

Mojo'd for truth, and for making me spit coffee on my monitor.

by SuGeAtARC on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:26:43 AM EST
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Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (none / 0)

Don't see comments from SoCalVet or ZeroSumgame, but really, if Obama claimed to have been under fire in Bosnia, wouldn't you have been all over him?

I supported Edwards all the way, but now wouldn't vote for him to be dogcatcher. When you lie to the public, you disqualify yourself from public office.

by antiHyde on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:31:15 PM EST
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Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (2.00 / 1)

Your second sentence is right on. For the first time, Obama's support among Democrats is polling below McCain's support among Republicans (74 to 81 percent). The way to win this election is by hyping up OUR base, in my book. We can't put our chips in the "Obamacan" basket; and with independents, I do believe an Obama-Clinton ticket holds a fair deal of appeal.

by MMR2 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:04:28 AM EST
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Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (2.00 / 0)

In a word NO.

As a side benefit it just might reduce the flame war that is sure to erupt with any other pick :)

Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.

by jsfox on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:59:20 AM EST

Nah (none / 0)

I won't be happy about it, but freaking out won't change anything. I'll utter a few swear words and move on.

Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius

by Blue Neponset on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:04:44 AM EST

I won't go Frank Zappa at all (2.00 / 0)

Nope, will be pleased actually.

She's a monster on the stump (hey, I meant that in a good way!) and heaven help anyone in the VP debate against her.

Will be funny to watch Bill morph into this ticket hocker, and stop with the petulant act....

On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!

by WashStateBlue on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:13:35 AM EST

Re: Will (2.00 / 0)

I won't be singing her praises and I won't be shouting to the heavens how happy I am. That being said:

All hands on deck. She can help. If that's where Obama wants her, then I won't complain.

by Reaper0Bot0 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:16:42 AM EST

Me gusta Hillary (2.00 / 0)

I would love it if Hillary is the pick. I think she is uniquely qualified to help put Obama over the top.

I think tales or her negatives are grossly exaggerated. As we saw from her results in the primary.

by carrieboberry on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:35:20 AM EST

Re: Me gusta Hillary (2.00 / 1)

Agreed. I thought she'd be a net negative at one time, but that was before I saw her on the campaign trail. She eroded Obama's lead bit by bit with a gutsy and often nasty campaign.

At first I hated her for it. Now I see just how much her approach is needed.

See how Saxby Chambliss is helping you!

by Spiffarino on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:03:21 AM EST
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Yes and no (2.00 / 1)

I will be pissed. I will still hold my nose and vote for theticket, just like I did with Kerry/Edwards, Gore/Lieberman and Clinton/Gore.

Hell my entire voting life I've had to vote for crap I don't like, i.e. lesser of two evils.

So far all of the 'short list' candidates suck, so it more a question of which exact flavor of crap will be served up on the number 2 spot this year, not whether it will be crap.

Now, should he go for Feingold, Wexler or someone with real progressive chops... that would be great; I am not holding my breath.

Obama seems intent on showing that he can make a bad choice for VP just for the sake of the chattering class.

That being said... Clinton is just ahead of Lieberman on my list of VP choices, which is to say second to last.

McCain sucks!

by teknofyl on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:44:26 AM EST

Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (with NEATO (none / 0)

SHE IS THE ONE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR

by nikkid on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:52:56 AM EST

When it comes to cojones... (none / 0)

...Hillary Clinton has the biggest pair - metaphorically speaking - on the block.

I would be overjoyed to see her join the ticket. Americans love a scrapper and the Dems need one desperately.

Barack, please get your ass off the high road and get down in the mud. Bring a lead pipe and a shitty attitude with you.

See how Saxby Chambliss is helping you!

by Spiffarino on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:01:12 AM EST

Re: Will You Freak Out if it's Hillary (2.00 / 1)

I'll probably be silent for a few days. Nothing changes the fact that I want Obama as president, so I'll live with it. But I'm not looking forward to hearing my parents bitch about how they can't stand Hillary.

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by X Stryker on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:14:07 AM EST

I will breathe a sigh of relief (2.00 / 0)

and then enjoy the exploding heads of the dead-ender crowd. But I still don't think he's going to do it.

by JJE on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:17:47 AM EST

Hillary is the only one who can save Obama (none / 0)

Look guys, yes the sky IS falling. Check the polls- Obama's is in freefall. Clinton to save the day!!!!!!!!!

I don't know if he will be able to stomach sharing that much of his limelight, though- so I will withhold my jubilation until the actual announcement........

by easyE on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:38:14 AM EST

RED MEAT! (2.00 / 2)

Clinton would be an awesome pick for one reason: She's fucking ruthless!

She'd tear Mitt into little pieces and do the same to McSame.

Send Bubba to Africa for four years.

Plus, NO ONE knows poliy in and out like Hillary.

by Sam Loomis on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:43:18 AM EST

OMG, it's Sam!!! (2.00 / 0)

Hey Guys,

Big round of applause for the DKos front pager, fabolus wit, and all around good guy, Sam Loomis.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:51:30 AM EST
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